@anthropy@mastodon.derg.nzI remember when WhatsApp was the Signal du jour.
As in, a small independent company, with good end to end encryption and lofty promises to keep your stuff safe.
Then it got bought by Facebook. Because centralized infra at that scale costs shittons of money, and you can't just provide this to millions if not billions of users and expect to operate for free forever.
Which is why, as much as I agree Signal is currently fine, I don't think it'll ever truly replace federated/decentralized options.
@kinetix@humanwords.cc@anthropy@mastodon.derg.nz @kkarhan@infosec.space I really wish xmpp had better client support along the way. But as a testament to how good xmpp is, it seems to be showing up under the hood for other things as time goes on.
Have you had a look at @delta@chaos.social ?
@kkarhan@infosec.space@kinetix @delta @anthropy I am aware of #DeltaChat.
- As for #XMPP+#OMEMO clients, I can recommend @gajim / #gajim & @monocles / #monoclesChat hands-down, as both are super-easy to setup and get even abdolute #TechIlliterates rollin'...
@kinetix@humanwords.cc@kkarhan@infosec.space @delta@chaos.social @anthropy@mastodon.derg.nz @gajim@fosstodon.org @monocles@monocles.social My last run-through with XMPP was a couple of years ago, and there were quite a number of issues with jank in the clients (including Gajim). However, I was working with a snikket backend and I'm aware there could have been some interesting quirks because of it.
Are there IOS clients that have automatic omemo and are reliable with notifications without apple push? Is it even possible?
I'm not making any cases for anything one way or the other, just genuine curiosity as I think it was always the lack of really good clients that kept xmpp adoption down on the whole.
@kkarhan@kinetix @anthropy AFAIK, @monocles / #monoclesChat is also available for #iOS.
- Pretty shure it's not using #Apple's #PushNitification backend, but I can't confirm that 100% now.